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Drinkin' With Lincoln
Drinkin’ with Lincoln is a podcast from WNIJ that looks at Abraham Lincoln's life, land and legacy through the eyes of the people who know him best: Lincoln presenters (commonly known as Lincoln impersonators, a term many Lincoln presenters avoid). Each episode, a Lincoln presenter joins WNIJ history correspondent Clint Cargile as he explores sites significant (and sometimes not-so-significant) to Abraham Lincoln's life in Illinois.Then Clint and his guest Lincoln find the nearest brewpub or brewery to quaff a beer (sometimes two) so we can get to know the man behind the beard: where he comes from, why he does what he does, what makes him Lincoln.If you have a Lincoln-related topic you'd like us to cover, or a Lincoln presenter you'd like us to interview, contact us at lincoln@niu.edu.

Drinkin' With Lincoln Episode 5: Abe & The Babe

Drinkin’ with Lincoln returns! For our season 2 premiere, we visit with Abe and Mary Lincoln presenters Max and Donna Daniels, also known as Abe & the Babe. Max and Donna’s career has spanned three decades and they are known in the Lincoln community for their humor, their generosity, and for mentoring a new generation of Lincoln presenters.

In part one, we join Abe & the Babe at the Chicagoland Civil War Collectors Show in Wheaton, Illinois. We’ll tag along as they chat with guests, pose for photos, and search for some collectibles of their own.

Then it’s time to sit down for good drinks and good conversation at Dry City Brew Works in downtown Wheaton. Max and Donna share how they met, how they got into Lincoln presenting, and the grueling road schedule they’ve kept for 30 years. Get ready for Max’s good humor, Donna’s infectious laughter, and plenty of insight into Abraham and Mary Lincoln along the way.

If there are any Lincoln topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, or Lincoln presenters you’d like us to interview, drop us a line at lincoln@niu.edu.

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Show Notes

Lincoln Presenters:

Max & Donna Daniels


Mana Kintorso (performed live on Sessions from Studio A)

Battlefield Balladeers

Locations Visited:

Chicagoland Civil War Collector Show, Wheaton, Ill.

Interview Location:

Dry City Brew Works, Wheaton, Ill.

C-SPAN Lincoln-Douglas Debates:

Ottawa Debate Re-Enactment (Max Daniels as Lincoln)

All 7 of C-SPAN Lincoln-Douglas Debate Re-Enactments

Other Lincoln Presenters:

Laura Keyes (Mary Lincoln)

Dan Bassuk

Jim Getty

Jim Gayan (Stephen Douglas)

Association of Abraham Lincoln Presenters (ALP)


Tom Dyba

Tear Catchers

Mankato Massacre

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